That Apple statement is kind of meaningless without getting a bit more specific. For example, if the CPU was previously sourced from a fab abroad and is now sourced domestically, that would drastically change the ratio. The new case is also likely much more expensive to manufacture than the trash can, due to the greater number and mass of parts - the honeycombed front and back, etc.Apple said:The value of American-made components in the new Mac Pro is 2.5 times greater than in Apple’s previous generation Mac Pro.
Exactly. And a 28-core Xeon CPU is a gigantic expense, for example, and Intel maintains billion-dollar manufacturing plants ("fabs") in the U.S. (as well as elsewhere), though I couldn't quickly determine where Intel's Xeon CPUs for Apple are being manufactured.That Apple statement is kind of meaningless without getting a bit more specific. For example, if the CPU was previously sourced from a fab abroad and is now sourced domestically, that would drastically change the ratio.
Apple may be putting a politically beneficial spin on its upcoming announcement of price increases for the new Mac Pro. Apple's statement appears to refer to the absolute, not fractional, value of the components. The design of the new Mac Pro bears little resemblance to the previous generation; the same is likely to be true of the price. The current Mac Pro starts at $3,000. If the low end of the new Mac Pro sells for more than $7,500, it could have a lower fraction of US-made parts than currently, and Apple's claim would still be true. The high end currently sells for $4,000. By the same calculation, the break point for the high end of the new Mac Pro is $10,000.
Here's an update from Mark Gurman on this three-ring tariff circus:Looks like there's been an about-face:
Forbes said:Apple Is Denied Tariff Relief on Five Mac Pro Parts After Staying in Texas
Apple Inc. won’t be exempted from tariffs on five Chinese-made components for the upcoming Mac Pro computer, even after the company announced it was keeping some assembly operations in the U.S.
The U.S. Trade Representative’s office denied Apple’s request for relief from 25% tariffs on the much-discussed optional wheels for Apple’s Mac Pro, a circuit board for managing input and output ports, power adapter, charging cable and a cooling system for the computer’s processor.
The decisions, posted Monday, come about a week after Apple announced it would make new Mac Pro computers at a plant in Austin, Texas -- which it’s operated since 2013 -- after originally considering shifting production to China like its other products.
The Verge said:Apple’s Mac Pro clears FCC, hinting at imminent launch
When Apple announced its redesigned Mac Pro this June, the company didn’t give a release date more specific than “this fall” — but the powerful new computer has just shown up in FCC filings, which could indicate an imminent launch.
... Another interesting tidbit found in filings is that some Mac Pros may be assembled in China.
... Update, 5:17 PM ET: Added Tim Cook’s double-down on Austin, Texas during today’s Q4 earnings call.
Apple said:Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR
Today, Apple also announced that the all-new Mac Pro, the world’s best pro desktop, and Apple Pro Display XDR, the world’s best pro display, will be available in December. Designed for maximum performance, expansion and configurability, Mac Pro features workstation-class Xeon processors up to 28 cores, a high-performance memory system with a massive 1.5TB capacity, eight PCIe expansion slots and a graphics architecture featuring the world’s most powerful graphics card. Pro Display XDR features a 32-inch Retina 6K display with P3 wide and 10-bit color, 1,600 nits of peak brightness, 1,000,000:1 contrast ratio and a superwide viewing angle, all at a breakthrough price point.
If memory serves, the Late 2013 Mac Pro became available for order on December 21, 2013, and if you blinked, you missed it – existing production was booked solid, and by December 31, the machine was back-ordered until the end of January, 2014. As I recall, the first one we ordered, sometime in January, 2014, didn't arrive until early March of that year because of a constraint somewhere in the supply chain, and the pile-up of orders.
Of course, the Late 2019 Mac Pro "Hollywood" model starts, stripped down, at twice the price of the Late 2013 "trash can" Mac Pro, which may factor into demand, but supply could certainly be an issue this time, too. Catalina is another factor - will the Late 2019 Mac Pro require it and fail to run macOS Mojave? (Also, will it run Linux, unlike new MacBook Pros?)If memory serves, the Late 2013 Mac Pro became available for order on December 21, 2013, and if you blinked, you missed it – existing production was booked solid, and by December 31, the machine was back-ordered until the end of January, 2014.
It was December 19, but otherwise, yes, if you blinked, you missed it. I placed my order at ~1:45 am. When an Apple sales rep I had talked to emailed me at 7:40 that morning, they were already out to February. Mine shipped the morning of 12/3/13 and arrived 1/6/14.If memory serves, the Late 2013 Mac Pro became available for order on December 21, 2013, and if you blinked, you missed it – existing production was booked solid, and by December 31, the machine was back-ordered until the end of January, 2014. As I recall, the first one we ordered, sometime in January, 2014, didn't arrive until early March of that year because of a constraint somewhere in the supply chain, and the pile-up of orders.
Is it possible to directly connect SATA drives without the Pegasus?
I looks like it might be possible, as the connectors are standard - but how you'd mount the drive might be tricky, as the Promise carrier (which holds two 3.5" drives) looks custom for the Mac Pro. Doubtless someone will make an alternative one?Is it possible to directly connect SATA drives without the Pegasus?
Yes, but some caveats. The J2i is both a drive bracket to be mounted in the Mac Pro and an 8TB drive. Can you connect a SATA drive to the Mac Pro without a drive bracket? Pragmatically, no. You'd need someone else's drive bracket.Is it possible to directly connect SATA drives without the Pegasus?
So if you take the $400 and subtract $207, it is about a $200 bracket. Promise is probably using a Toshiba enterprise drive (Toshiba 8TB Hard Disk Drive), so we can nudge that price up a bit).
It also adds several weeks to the ship date. And you need to contact Apple Service to change (which may mean they have to swap out the space frame - in that context, they don't attach, but are built into the frame).That's ludicrous.
Not just prices but lots more info. (which Apple could have released earlier:
Of course, that's even more expensive +$500)... and has an even longer (unspecified) delay.Or just buy the rack version and put it in an 'equipment cart" that has wheels.
If you're moving it fairly often to access the internals (e.g. out from under a desk), the pricy wheels might be helpful.Why the wheels are needed at all is a bit of mystery to me.
OWC said:Mac Pro Now Available for Purchase
The little matte-blue buy button finally appeared on Apple’s Mac Pro page this morning. No hype, no fanfare, no press release, not even a cameo appearance on the homepage. The moment we have all been waiting for has come and gone with nary a peep.
It appears that I estimated too high. Configuring a maxed-out Mac Pro from Apple's web site today, I end up with:... I couldn't configure a [Dell system] equivalent to a maxed-out Mac Pro. I could come close or exceed it in some specs, but not in others. My nearest equivalent came to $51,985.59 ($74,068.00, less a $22,082.41 discount) ...
That's a really nice (and expensive) system, but Apple's maxed-out system has a better CPU, better set of GPUs and more memory. So I think we can assume that such a system will easily cost over $50,000 and may go significantly higher. My gut feeling is around $75,000 for that maxed-out system, and it will be worth it for those few people who actually need that much power.
Those look like 1988 prices.Now that Apple's taking orders for the 2019 Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR, we finally have prices for all the upgrades and add-ons...
A few I was particularly interested to see:
Thanks, it's enlightening to see the comparison at the stratospheric top end, but how do the comparisons play out for Apple's entry-level configuration?... So, yes, the new Mac Pro is an expensive system, and even the smallest configuration is too expensive for me, but I think the price is extremely competitive compared to similar computers from other vendors.
Those little security slots are completely pointless.
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