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Postbox is a little nicer looking and features an integrated In Box, which is a big benefit (for me, at least). It still doesn't feel like a totally Mac-native application and lacks things I miss from Eudora, but it's pretty decent and I haven't had any reliability problems with it (in contrast to some bad experiences with Apple Mail).
I find that having .me accounts in non-Apple mail apps is a pain with 2-factor passwords. I do not really want to abandon my two .me accounts, but I am tempted. I wonder if Apple has problems integrating .mac, .me, and .icloud.
 


Postbox is a little nicer looking and features an integrated In Box, which is a big benefit (for me, at least). It still doesn't feel like a totally Mac-native application and lacks things I miss from Eudora, but it's pretty decent and I haven't had any reliability problems with it (in contrast to some bad experiences with Apple Mail).
I've been using Postbox for many years and use many of its features to manage my mail. One of the features is assigning topics to messages - well, they are actually attached to a thread, not individual messages.

A few weeks ago I had a thread with three messages. I removed the topic and then a few seconds later watched as the app reapplied the topic to each message in turn, one, two, three.

Sure enough, soon thereafter there was an update, and one of the changes was "Fixed a regression that prevented topics from being properly removed." One of the strangest bugs I've seen.
 


Ric Ford

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I've been using Postbox for many years and use many of its features to manage my mail. One of the features is assigning topics to messages - well, they are actually attached to a thread, not individual messages.
I actually hate this about Postbox and filed a request for a change, but the developer doesn't seem very interested in responding to customer requests like that.

Coming from Eudora, I was accustomed to labelling individual messages with priorities and colors. These typically do not apply to every message in a thread, which usually contains extraneous messages along with important ones. Thus, thread-based tags are problematic, but, as far as I know, that's still how Postbox does things, with no finer-grained alternative.
 


I actually hate this about Postbox and filed a request for a change, but the developer doesn't seem very interested in responding to customer requests like that. Coming from Eudora, I was accustomed to labelling individual messages with priorities and colors. These typically do not apply to every message in a thread, which usually contains extraneous messages along with important ones. Thus, thread-based tags are problematic, but, as far as I know, that's still how Postbox does things, with no finer-grained alternative.
I agree, and thread-based is apparently how it works today. I've also found threading to be inconsistent, though that's perhaps because the settings for threads are unintelligible to me, so I may be using the wrong choices - on the other hand, it may be buggy. It works for me most of the time but not always.
 



A very strange problem here. Over the past few years for my AOL account, I've been sending spam emails as attachments to spam@aol.com. No problem there.
However, when updating to Mojave 10.14.4, I've been getting alerts that my email has an error....
An update: I tried sending the same email on another Mac, and the problem still exists. I'm beginning to think the problem resides on the AOL mail server. (Both Macs running the latest macOS Mojave version.)
 


Recently moved 80-year-old friend from Thunderbird to Mojave Apple Mail and Contacts. The message list font is too small to read comfortably in Mail, and everything is too small in Contacts. Any magic way to increase these font sizes?
 


Recently moved 80-year-old friend from Thunderbird to Mojave Apple Mail and Contacts. The message list font is too small to read comfortably in Mail, and everything is too small in Contacts. Any magic way to increase these font sizes?
Mail Preferences > Fonts & Colors

For Contacts and other Apple apps, try the free TinkerTool and adjust under the Fonts tab.
 


Recently moved 80-year-old friend from Thunderbird to Mojave Apple Mail and Contacts. The message list font is too small to read comfortably in Mail, and everything is too small in Contacts. Any magic way to increase these font sizes?
If you switch to Classic view (Preferences > Viewing), you can then change the message list font. More here:
Apple Communities said:
 



Recently moved 80-year-old friend from Thunderbird to Mojave Apple Mail and Contacts. The message list font is too small to read comfortably in Mail, and everything is too small in Contacts. Any magic way to increase these font sizes?
In situations like this, changing the whole screen resolution might also be something to consider (in System Preferences > Displays).
 


In situations like this, changing the whole screen resolution might also be something to consider (in System Preferences > Displays).
Upsizing text does work effectively: had mother's plastic fantastic 2010 MacBook in a Henge Dock connected to a 24" external and that set eventually at size 32 across her apps and desktop, and she was able to continue transferring what was in her memory banks into a family history (in System 9, so she could keep using the Gene Hypercard-based app, which never made it to Mac OS X). Yes, she would reboot back and forth between System 9 and Mac OS X 10.4, back when you still could. This in spite of well developed macular degeneration, until a small fall at 98.5 put an end to those childish entertainments. Sadly.

Many apps can't manage these gymnastics (I'm looking at you Mail, in many of your versions), so the helped person may have to consider other tools than their favourites to be able to set their effective sizings, which can be a problem. We oldies can be set in our ways, it seems, but the truth is it takes time, precious time, to learn new stuff, and our time is running out.

In the very early days of Mac, I approached developers directly a couple of times to ask them to help some disabilitied folk by allowing a greater font-size selection, and the three I worked with were all very happy to help. Then.
 


Here's a new issue for Apple Mail:

I've used Apple Mail since near the beginning and now use it on all my devices. Some time back I set up folders in iCloud, within Mail, for archiving my email. I have a couple dozen folders, and some nested folders, for work, personal, and other emails. From any computer or iPad I can search for anything within these emails, doing this from within Mail, and Mail will find it (along with thousands of other emails that I don't want, but that's different. ;-)

Last week I received a new 2019 iMac for work. It's all configured with my iCloud and Exchange accounts, and after using Migration Assistant to move everything over, I logged into iCloud, and after a short while all my folders and old emails popped up in Mail. Everything's there. Great! Except for one nagging issue: I can't search them. All my searches go back to July 7, the first day for the new iMac. I can see the 10-year-old emails in their folders, but my searches don't. All my other Macs and iPad search without problems, so I suspect this is a local index problem.

Is this a Spotlight issue, or a Mail issue, or do I need to invoke some special command to get the Mail search feature to go back into all these old emails?
 


Here's a new issue for Apple Mail:
I've used Apple Mail since near the beginning and now use it on all my devices. Some time back I set up folders in iCloud, within Mail, for archiving my email. I have a couple dozen folders, and some nested folders, for work, personal, and other emails. From any computer or iPad I can search for anything within these emails, doing this from within Mail, and Mail will find it (along with thousands of other emails that I don't want, but that's different. ;-)
Last week I received a new 2019 iMac for work. It's all configured with my iCloud and Exchange accounts, and after using Migration Assistant to move everything over, I logged into iCloud, and after a short while all my folders and old emails popped up in Mail. Everything's there. Great! Except for one nagging issue: I can't search them. All my searches go back to July 7, the first day for the new iMac. I can see the 10-year-old emails in their folders, but my searches don't. All my other Macs and iPad search without problems, so I suspect this is a local index problem.
Is this a Spotlight issue, or a Mail issue, or do I need to invoke some special command to get the Mail search feature to go back into all these old emails?
It is Spotlight. Go to the Spotlight preference pane, add the Mail library folder (~/Library/Mail) to the exclusions, wait a few minutes for it to finish updating the index, then remove the exclusion. It should then reindex all of your mail.

If that doesn't fix it, the next thing to try is to select each mail folder and then Mailbox > Rebuild.
 


I have a related issue with searching in Apple Mail: certain search terms just crash the app, consistently. For example, the name of one of my colleagues will crash the app everytime I type it into the search bar. I have tried resetting the index, rebuilding the inbox, and even resetting Spotlight completely, to no avail.
 


Every time a new OS looms, I have to ask: will MailHub from Dervish Software be released so that it work with the new OS (in this case, Catalina)?

The developer never responds to any queries from anyone; the support section on their website is empty and inactive; but for the last few OSes, there has been an update.

Anyone have a clue as to what is happening with Dervish? Or, any good alternative to MailHub to manage and predict mail filing and filters? Dervish may be a problematic developer, but the app is fantastic.
 


On a similar thread, I've grown frustrated with the developer of the MacOS Mail Anti Inline Plugin . This add-on for Mail.app allows the end-user a choice for controlling how attachments are displayed. It worked perfectly for macOS 10.13.x and earlier, but after purchasing another license on 05/22 of this year, I quickly discovered the plug-in was incompatible with the current version of Apple Mail in Mojave.

I contacted Clive Galeni to inquire about when this situation would be addressed but have heard nothing from him. The blog on the product website has a latest posting from early February. It may be that Clive has taken ill, or worse. It may be that some other life event has interfered. But it is slightly irritating to pay for a product that fails to work upon receipt.
 


On a similar thread, I've grown frustrated with the developer of the MacOS Mail Anti Inline Plugin . This add-on for Mail.app allows the end-user a choice for controlling how attachments are displayed. It worked perfectly for macOS 10.13.x and earlier, but after purchasing another license on 05/22 of this year, I quickly discovered the plug-in was incompatible with the current version of Apple Mail in Mojave.

I contacted Clive Galeni to inquire about when this situation would be addressed but have heard nothing from him. The blog on the product website has a latest posting from early February. It may be that Clive has taken ill, or worse. It may be that some other life event has interfered. But it is slightly irritating to pay for a product that fails to work upon receipt.
If you're lucky, the plugin really will work but just needs to have its plist updated, which you can do. The plist has keys that list each Mail version that the plugin supports. That has to match the UUID in Mail's plist, which changes with each major Mail version. If the UUID doesn't match, you get the "Incompatible Plug-Ins Disabled" error.
 


On a similar thread, I've grown frustrated with the developer of the MacOS Mail Anti Inline Plugin . This add-on for Mail.app allows the end-user a choice for controlling how attachments are displayed. It worked perfectly for macOS 10.13.x and earlier, but after purchasing another license on 05/22 of this year, I quickly discovered the plug-in was incompatible with the current version of Apple Mail in Mojave.
Do you mean that the presented "macOS Mojave Anti Inline Plugin" does not work in Mojave?
 



If you're lucky, the plugin really will work but just needs to have its plist updated, which you can do. The plist has keys that list each Mail version that the plugin supports. That has to match the UUID in Mail's plist, which changes with each major Mail version. If the UUID doesn't match, you get the "Incompatible Plug-Ins Disabled" error.
Can you explain how to do this?
 


It is Spotlight. Go to the Spotlight preference pane, add the Mail library folder (~/Library/Mail) to the exclusions, wait a few minutes for it to finish updating the index, then remove the exclusion. It should then reindex all of your mail.

If that doesn't fix it, the next thing to try is to select each mail folder and then Mailbox > Rebuild.
That worked, though I had to go all the way to the Rebuild. But now it seems to find all the past emails. Thank you!
 



Can you explain how to do this?
This will display the current Mail UUID:
Code:
defaults read /Applications/Mail.app/Contents/Info PluginCompatibilityUUID
This will display the Mail UUIDs the mailbundle currently claims to support. Insert the location of your mailbundle. The 10.13 below should be replaced with your macOS release. Mine is 10.13 because I checked this on High Sierra.
Code:
defaults read path_to_mail_plugin/Contents/Info Supported10.13PluginCompatibilityUUIDs
This will add the Mail UUID to the mailbundle's Info.plist. Insert the UUID found in step 1.
Code:
defaults write path_to_mail_plugin/Contents/Info Supported10.13PluginCompatibilityUUIDs -array-add MailUUID
 


This will display the current Mail UUID:
Code:
defaults read /Applications/Mail.app/Contents/Info PluginCompatibilityUUID
This will display the Mail UUIDs the mailbundle currently claims to support. Insert the location of your mailbundle. The 10.13 below should be replaced with your macOS release. Mine is 10.13 because I checked this on High Sierra.
Code:
defaults read path_to_mail_plugin/Contents/Info Supported10.13PluginCompatibilityUUIDs
This will add the Mail UUID to the mailbundle's Info.plist. Insert the UUID found in step 1.
Code:
defaults write path_to_mail_plugin/Contents/Info Supported10.13PluginCompatibilityUUIDs -array-add MailUUID
Thanks very much!
 


This will display the current Mail UUID... This will display the Mail UUIDs the mailbundle currently claims to support. ... This will add the Mail UUID to the mailbundle's Info.plist. Insert the UUID found in step 1...
Be warned that this won't guarantee that the plugin will work - there's a reason Apple changes this identifier with each new major release, usually because there are significant changes in Mail that will likely break plugins until they're updated for the new release, which the plugin indicates by including this new UUID in its own bundle. Simply 'hacking in' the updated UUID doesn't magically fix the plugins. :)

Also note that as of Mojave (10.14), there are significant differences in how a plugin is loaded, which isn't trivial to 'hack' a fix for.
 



Also note that as of Mojave (10.14), there are significant differences in how a plugin is loaded, which isn't trivial to 'hack' a fix for.
All part of a pattern, I'm afraid. Mojave also completely removed plugin functionality for the Contacts/Address Book app, which means that very useful tools, like Brian Toth's PostCheck, are going to disappear. I wouldn't be surprised if Mail plugins eventually suffer the same fate.

As someone commented elsewhere, Apple now seems focused on one or two Apple-preferred use cases for most things, and if you want to be happy with Apple products, you need to adhere to one of those use cases. Sooner or later, attempts to customize your experience are very likely to be punished. Who would've predicted that Apple would be the company that seems to be doing the most to remove the "personal" from personal computing?
 


I updated a MacBook (2015) to macOS 10.14.6 and notice that the badges on smart mailboxes in Mail are wrong.

For example, right now Mail shows 2 unread messages in the Dock, 2 by Inbox in Mail, but 50 in my "Unread" smart mailbox, which is defined as "Message is unread", "Message is not in mailbox Junk", and "Message is not in mailbox Missed Spam". If I select that smart mailbox, it indeed shows me 50 messages, but if I filter it by "Unread", there are only two.

I have noted similar differences under earlier versions of macOS, but usually they sync after a while, whereas this shows no sign of abating. A 2013 MacBook Pro that still has macOS 10.14.5 does not exhibit the same behavior—i.e., the badges show consistent results.

Is anyone else having this problem, or is there a known work-around?
 


I updated a MacBook (2015) to macOS 10.14.6 and notice that the badges on smart mailboxes in Mail are wrong.
... Is anyone else having this problem, or is there a known work-around?
I have seen such things on occasion. A "rebuild" of the affected mailboxes usually does the trick. (Mailbox > Rebuild menu item). One can also use an Sqlite command to rebuild the entire mailbox index if needed, at least according to this old MacObserver article:
 


I've been seeing an annoying bit of flakiness in Apple Mail 12.4 (macOS 10.14.5). Using classic layout, individual emails that I am reading in the Inboxes suddenly close, seemingly at random, and I have to open them again. I usually have my fingers on the keyboard, so I thought I touched something, but now I have seen it with my hands off. Is anybody else seeing this? So far it's just a minor annoyance, but it is annoying.
 


I've been seeing an annoying bit of flakiness in Apple Mail 12.4 (macOS 10.14.5). Using classic layout, individual emails that I am reading in the Inboxes suddenly close, seemingly at random, and I have to open them again. I usually have my fingers on the keyboard, so I thought I touched something, but now I have seen it with my hands off. Is anybody else seeing this? So far it's just a minor annoyance, but it is annoying.
I've also been seeing Mail messages disappear from the preview pane for no reason, randomly, leaving, "No Message Selected," for quite some time. This is on several Sierra systems I use, also Classic Mail display mode. I chalk it up to yet another long-time Mail bug.
 


I've been seeing an annoying bit of flakiness in Apple Mail 12.4 (macOS 10.14.5). Using classic layout, individual emails that I am reading in the Inboxes suddenly close, seemingly at random, and I have to open them again. I usually have my fingers on the keyboard, so I thought I touched something, but now I have seen it with my hands off. Is anybody else seeing this? So far it's just a minor annoyance, but it is annoying.
I've seen this in macOS 10.14.6 as well. It has been happening for quite some time (before macOS 10.14.5), but this is the first other report I've seen. (It is probably not static discharge, given the Detroit area weather lately.)
 


I've seen this in macOS 10.14.6 as well. It has been happening for quite some time (before macOS 10.14.5), but this is the first other report I've seen. (It is probably not static discharge, given the Detroit area weather lately.)
Not seeing that here but no thoughts as to cause!
 


Another bug I'm seeing is random failures to change bold, unread messages to plain (read) status after reading them, unless I change to another mailbox. Mail 10.3 Classic view, with Sierra 10.12.6.

It also annoys me that for some time, the exact same message emailed to my two different accounts will only show one message when viewed with "Inbox" (showing all accounts Inboxes). I no longer can see that it was sent to both my accounts unless I check each account under Inbox. I haven't yet figured out how it chooses which message to display.
 


I've been seeing an annoying bit of flakiness in Apple Mail 12.4 (macOS 10.14.5). Using classic layout, individual emails that I am reading in the Inboxes suddenly close, seemingly at random, and I have to open them again. I usually have my fingers on the keyboard, so I thought I touched something, but now I have seen it with my hands off. Is anybody else seeing this? So far it's just a minor annoyance, but it is annoying.
I also have been seeing this for some time, at least back to High Sierra; however, it has always seemed so totally random and unreproducible that I never reported it. But at least it's nice to know you aren't crazy (completely, anyway). FWIW, I am using a POP account. (POP seems so broken in the macOS 10.15 and iOS 13 betas as to be unusable.)
 


I've seen this in macOS 10.14.6 as well. It has been happening for quite some time (before macOS 10.14.5), but this is the first other report I've seen. (It is probably not static discharge, given the Detroit area weather lately.)
We have experienced the same issue for several updates to the OS including macOS 10.14.6. This is not a frequent occurrence but worrying if the emails are lost permanently when using IMAP Mail. Since the emails appear, then disappear, even a search does not help when I remember the subject line with a very brief glance.
 


Ric Ford

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... Since the emails appear, then disappear, even a search does not help when I remember the subject line with a very brief glance.
I'm not familiar with Apple Mail, but I don't think it's terribly different from Thunderbird or Postbox, and these types of problems sound quite a bit like a "filtering" problem. In Postbox, this happens if you inadvertently have a search active without realizing it, or some filter attribute active without realizing it (e.g. "Unread" or "Has Attachments").
 


I'm not familiar with Apple Mail, but I don't think it's terribly different from Thunderbird or Postbox, and these types of problems sound quite a bit like a "filtering" problem. In Postbox, this happens if you inadvertently have a search active without realizing it, or some filter attribute active without realizing it (e.g. "Unread" or "Has Attachments").
I have minimal filtering and have both POP and IMAP Mail accounts. I think both have blanked, but I have not tried to keep track. I don't think any mail is disappearing. What I see is that the body of the email blanks, but if I double-click to open the seemingly blank mail I can read the body of the mail message. It only is blank when viewed in the Message Viewer.
 


I use (High Sierra) Mail in Classic view with threading turned off. Last week I had a problem across multiple machines where two distinct messages (a message from user A plus a reply to that message by user B) would only display as a single message, but with aspects of both. The "from" was from one of the messages but the content was from the other.

This was repeatable. When user A replied to the message, that would appear in the inbox. When user B replied to user A's new message, then the separate messages would collapse again into one corrupted message -- on two different machines simultaneously. Only in webmail could I see the real messages.

So, I figured, it needed a mailbox rebuild. I used webmail to move the two messages to two different mailboxes and rebuilt both. Everything looked OK in Mail. Then I moved the two messages back together, and poof! They combined together again as a broken message.

The only way I could fix it was to use webmail to delete all of the messages from user A.
 


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