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I emailed support at Matias about the keyboard combinations not working...
They have replied that they will swap it out with one that does have the functionality of keys being active during the boot / startup sequence, but it will need to wait until June, as it is out of stock.
 
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Just recently started playing around with High Sierra, and noticed in a beta of 10.13.6 that my keyboard - the original wired Extended Apple Keyboard, the first version with slightly different keys than what appeared in a slightly revised subsequent version - wasn't functional if I did a reboot, whereas I think it was functional with 10.13.5. And, sure enough, in the final 10.13.6 it was still that way, non-functional. And now with Mojave, more of the same.

So, essentially, cannot do anything with the keyboard when rebooting, including using option to select a different disk to boot from. Have to shut down and power up instead.

I thought I read something here about keyboard issues prior to my playing around with these versions of macOS, but of course my mental note wasn't handy at the time, and I couldn't locate it here when I looked.

Anyway, for the time being, I can still shut down and boot into Yosemite and reboot, and the keyboard is still functional, last time I paid attention. (I will try it again after I post this to make sure that's still true.)

Early 2009 Mac Pro updated to 5,1, using an apparently flashed AMD Radeon HD 7950, and installed on a spare SSD.
 


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...noticed in a beta of 10.13.6 that my keyboard - the original wired Extended Apple Keyboard, the first version with slightly different keys than what appeared in a slightly revised subsequent version - wasn't functional...
You aren't talking about the ancient ADB Apple keyboard, are you? (That would obviously require an adapter for use with USB.)
 


You aren't talking about the ancient ADB Apple keyboard, are you? (That would obviously require an adapter for use with USB.)
I was talking about USB (had that in there, but it seemed redundant). This was the original flat aluminum keyboard with the white flat keys and the essential-to-me numeric keyboard on the right-hand side. (Really love this keyboard.) There were two near-identical flavors of it that I know of. I have the first, which works great on my Mac Pro with mission control keys f13-f19; the second flavor (which had a few different icons on the F buttons), did not. (Although this was when it was a 4,1 Mac Pro, so ?).

So, anyway, I'm curious about which Apple keyboards with similar keys will work well with a 5,1 Mac Pro - in particular, still be active after doing a restart. Maybe even that second flavor.
 


A major difference between v1 and v2 of the discontinued wired aluminum keyboard is the Apple-specific functions assigned to the F-keys. When v1 came out, Widgets was still a big deal and consequently has a dedicated launch button. On v2 there's a Mission Control button instead.
 


A major difference between v1 and v2 of the discontinued wired aluminum keyboard is the Apple-specific functions assigned to the F-keys. When v1 came out, Widgets was still a big deal and consequently has a dedicated launch button. On v2 there's a Mission Control button instead.
So my questions about these two are: Does the v2 keyboard work properly with High Sierra 10.13.6 (and presumably Mojave), for anyone? One would imagine it would since it was available more recently, guessing how Apple thinks... And on top of that does it function well with the 2010 5,1 Mac Pros? (Or maybe it's just my setup, and v1 keyboard works for others with these particular OSes?)
 


I have been using a V2 Apple wired keyboard with no problems (other than fat fingers) with both High Sierra and Mojave. I have an iMac 5K 27", and I don't know about a 2010 5,1 Mac Pro - sorry.
 


Initially I had the V2 Apple wired keyboard issue; however, once I plugged directly into the 2015 iMac (not via my powered USB3 hub), all is now fine.
 


It dawned on me a while after reading your posts that perhaps I should try plugging the keyboard into the tower instead of into the monitor, so I will give that a shot tomorrow. It's something to try at least.

I also will try unplugging and replugging the keyboard once the reboot is finished - at least that might allow me to log in after a restart, should that happen to make a difference. (I would still be out of luck with any boot time keyboard activities however.)
 


Just recently started playing around with High Sierra, and noticed in a beta of 10.13.6 that my keyboard - the original wired Extended Apple Keyboard, the first version with slightly different keys than what appeared in a slightly revised subsequent version - wasn't functional if I did a reboot, whereas I think it was functional with 10.13.5. And, sure enough, in the final 10.13.6 it was still that way, non-functional. And now with Mojave, more of the same....
So... Installed 10.13.5, which I had handy, on to a fresh SSD, and the keyboard worked fine, no problemo, just like I remembered.

Updated to 10.13.6, keyboard not recognized; unplugged/replugged into back of the 30" Apple Cinema Display, no change; plugged keyboard into front of Mac Pro tower, success... more success when moved the USB cable for the monitor to the first rather than the third USB input on the back and plugged the keyboard back in to the monitor. Everything seemed fine. At this point, fresh install, no migratons, no adds, a few preferences set. Restarts seemed to result in keyboard being recognized each time.

Once Mojave beta 4 finished downloading, tried to install it on top of fresh 10.13.6 - result was same as before when I was installing over migrated-from-Yosemite 10.13.6:
MacOS could not be installed on your computer. The installer resources were not found. Quit the installer to restart your computer and try again."

Which didn't work, and now after that restart the keyboard was not being recognized either.

Might try and install Mojave beta 3 again before going back to the drawing board, since 4 doesn't seem viable. But enough of that for today.
 


Tried this time from scratch with a full macOS 10.13.6 installer. Still had the keyboard issue, but unplug/replug of the monitor (and thereby the keyboard) on the back of the tower took care of it for the most part.

And sadly I didn't actually have a full 10.14 beta 3 installer, just a stub, so had to settle with getting a full beta 4 and trying that again, with the same result in the end.

Only thing I haven't tried again yet is bypassing the Apple Cinema Display altogether with the keyboard directly hooked up to the Mac Pro to see if it stays recognized all of the time, since I still detected some flakiness otherwise. (Maybe better luck with beta 5, plus need to dig out a USB extender cable or two, and back to Yosemite yet again.)
 


Indeed plugging the Apple keyboard directly into the Mac Pro tower (via a USB extension cord), rather than into the Apple monitor, was sufficient to bypass the problems I was having with installing and using macOS 10.13.6 with my old keyboard (hooked up at the monitor). Keyboard was recognized all along and seemed to remain functional. So, not sure why Apple decided to more or less all of a sudden make it not work through one of its very own monitors, but there you go.

But it seems like the keyboard works pretty well with Mojave, after all, once I got the sound settings configured correctly to work with it. (Still need to bypass the monitor hookup.)
 


Indeed plugging the Apple keyboard directly into the Mac Pro tower (via a USB extension cord), rather than into the Apple monitor, was sufficient to bypass the problems I was having with installing and using macOS 10.13.6 with my old keyboard (hooked up at the monitor). Keyboard was recognized all along and seemed to remain functional. So, not sure why Apple decided to more or less all of a sudden make it not work through one of its very own monitors, but there you go.

But it seems like the keyboard works pretty well with Mojave, after all, once I got the sound settings configured correctly to work with it. (Still need to bypass the monitor hookup.)
In my case, the Apple keyboard connected to the 30" Cinema Display still works in Mojave… except when I need to invoke a startup key combination such as recovery (command-R or command-option-R), PRAM zap (command-option-P-R), or even safe boot. In such cases, I plug the keyboard into the front USB outlet.

I’m even considering getting the Magic Keyboard (extended) now that I have installed the Apple Broadcom BCM94360CD wifi/bluetooth upgrade. It seems my Magic Trackpad comes to life at startup even before the Apple USB Keyboard is recognized.
 


On the rare occasions when I need to option-boot, I have to temporarily attach an old Apple keyboard (crappy white plastic model, with the horrible keys and touch) directly to my Mac Pro; the third party keyboard connected to my KVM isn’t seen by the system that early in the boot process, (although of course the monitor is functioning normally). I haven’t tried connecting the old Apple keyboard to the KVM, so I don’t know if it would work, but it is possible that anything that functions as a hub is problematic.
 


So... Installed 10.13.5, which I had handy, on to a fresh SSD, and the keyboard worked fine, no problemo, just like I remembered.
Updated to 10.13.6, keyboard not recognized; unplugged/replugged into back of the 30" Apple Cinema Display, no change; plugged keyboard into front of Mac Pro tower, success... more success when moved the USB cable for the monitor to the first rather than the third USB input on the back and plugged the keyboard back in to the monitor. Everything seemed fine. At this point, fresh install, no migratons, no adds, a few preferences set. Restarts seemed to result in keyboard being recognized each time....
Regarding the keyboard and the 30" Cinema Display, I have my Apple "Pro Keyboard" (I think the M7803 from 2001) plugged into the back of my 2004 30" Cinema on the 2018 MacBook Pro 15", and it is working well.

So, it does work for some combinations on macOS 10.13.6, so far. For some reason, I like this keyboard much better than many of the new ones. Talk about a reliable keyboard, it is a little over 17 years old! (Hope I didn't jinx it!) This is what it looks like: Apple_Pro_Keyboard_black.jpg
 


In my case, the Apple keyboard connected to the 30" Cinema Display still works in Mojave… except when I need to invoke a startup key combination such as recovery (command-R or command-option-R), PRAM zap (command-option-P-R), or even safe boot. In such cases, I plug the keyboard into the front USB outlet. I’m even considering getting the Magic Keyboard (extended) now that I have installed the Apple Broadcom BCM94360CD wifi/bluetooth upgrade. It seems my Magic Trackpad comes to life at startup even before the Apple USB Keyboard is recognized.
That's pretty much the same for me. If a fresh cold boot, the keyboard fully worked. If a restart, then that's when the keyboard was no longer being recognized.

My workaround is a USB 2 extender cable that goes between the keyboard and the tower. Now the keyboard always works. (And I now have a use for that last USB port on the back!)

Cabled keyboard, wireless Magic Mouse... I did notice when I booted into Snow Leopard the other day that bluetooth didn't seem to be working any more, by the way. A PRAM zap brought it back, albeit I imagine, temporarily, so keep a wired mouse handy, too.
 


I just received the new Macally USB Backlit Keyboard. Right out of the box, there's an issue: no additional USB ports on the side (some of us still use a wired mouse, you know). In this day and age where Apple is removing as many ports as possible, forcing everyone to use a dongle or a USB hub or Bluetooth, this is a major mistake on Macally's part. So, be aware of this, if you are considering this keyboard.
 


I have been using the Matias Quiet Pro keyboard for a while now. It is a USB wired keyboard. It uses mechanical keys, feels like the Apple keyboards of old, and, it works great. All special keys work during bootup, as well, which is very nice.

It is a little pricey, but if you do a lot of typing, it is worth it. Works in High Sierra and Mojave.
 



Still, my favorite Apple keyboard is the Apple Extended Keyboard II. I love it more than the Apple Keyboard with Numeric Keypad. The feel was absolutely sexy in a way. Plus, the keyboard had more functions than the Apple Keyboard with Numeric Keypad that I'm using.
Also, the slope (or rake) of the keyboard most closely resembled the infamous (and deservedly so) IBM Selectric II electric typewriter.

My typing speed did not decrease from using this keyboard, nor did I have carpal tunnel with the Extended Keyboard II. (Any time I had to switch to a PC computer, within hours the carpal tunnel syndrome would kick in.)

I have never understood why Apple's keyboard kept getting flatter and flatter through the years, to the point where there is little if any slope to the keyboard. I don't care what Jony Ive thinks; ergonomically, it's wrong.

I do carry a spare Apple Keyboard with Numeric Keyboard (USB-wired) in my go-to grab bag, but that is because there aren't any numeric or extended function keys (I am talking about F13-F15/16) on Mac laptops... which begs the question, why are many PC laptops able to provide a numeric keyboard on a 15" or 17" screen, and Apple's computers somehow "couldn't" -- even my much-beloved 17" MacBook Pro (rest in peace).
 


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