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While there currently are more glitches running Catalina Beta under VMware Fusion, I expect that Fusion also will be fine by the time Catalina is released officially and VMware gets a patch or two.
Full Catalina compatibility (as both a host system and guest) is coming to the VMware Fusion 11.5 update, a free update for all current VMware Fusion 11 customers. It should be released sometime this month, hopefully sooner than later.
 


Ric Ford

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Full Catalina compatibility (as both a host system and guest) is coming to the VMware Fusion 11.5 update, a free update for all current VMware Fusion 11 customers. It should be released sometime this month, hopefully sooner than later.
Featuring...
VMware said:
  • Performance and Security Bugfixes ...
  • Sidecar (requires Catalina host)
    • Use Windows on your iPad, wirelessly, with hardware keyboard and Apple Pencil support!
 


Perhaps you can use Handbrake to convert the clips to m4v (mp4) and reintegrate into Keynote. Remember that a Keynote file is just a zip file with a different extension, so you can always extract the underlying movie files for this purpose.
That actually sounds like it might be scriptable, which, for someone with a lot of material like Ralph, might be worth exploring.
 



Apple probably should have a proactive "migration" app that builds an easy report before the "automatically upgrade" default settings grab the new upgrade as fast as possible and install it.
Yes, I agree. There should be a compatibility checker that runs, perhaps optionally, as part of the upgrade process.

While it's true that Mojave has given some notification about pending changes, and there have been vague compatibility warnings before, there likely are a reasonable number of people who have been hanging out on older versions of the OS and are not as well-informed as the average MacInTouch reader.

FWIW, the machines I use most often use are on Sierra now. I am (reluctantly) planning to make the switch to Mojave very soon. I have no plans to update to Catalina.
 


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FYI:
Adobe said:
Fix Adobe app 64-bit compatibility errors on macOS
Adobe is working on moving most of its Creative Cloud and Acrobat apps to 64-bit to ensure compatibility with macOS 10.15 and future versions as Apple ends its 32-bit support.

When launching Adobe apps on macOS 10.15 and future versions, you may receive an error message when the operating system detects the app or components of the apps are running 32-bit. Most of our apps have been or are in the process of being upgraded to 64-bit.

Two Adobe apps, Fuse and Presenter Video Express, will continue as 32-bit. Our recommendations on replacement apps are given below.
Apple Support said:
Migrate your Aperture libraries to Photos or Adobe Lightroom Classic
In June 2014, Apple announced the discontinuation of development of Aperture. Since that time, Apple has released five major macOS updates. For technical reasons, Aperture will not run in future versions of macOS after macOS Mojave. To continue working with your Aperture photo libraries, you must migrate them to the Photos app included with macOS, or migrate them to Adobe Lightroom Classic.
 


Yes lots of hardware also [will be incompatible]. Many companies will not update their drivers and software to 64-bit. Why should they? Your hardware is obsolete. You must go out and buy new hardware. A great opportunity for these companies. I got an email from Datacolor (maker of Spyder monitor calibrators) that they will only provide 64-bit software for their newest products. I use this product once or twice a year. I am not going to go out and buy another. I expect other companies will take the same approach.

So, for me, Catalina is a no-no. I bought a new iMac recently so I could run Mojave before Catalina comes out and new iMacs will not run Mojave.
 



Ric Ford

MacInTouch
Some information about NeoFinder versions and its role in replacing the extinct (32-bit) Media Pro app:
Norbert M. Doerner said:
Announcing NeoFinder 7.5 for December 2019

... With the arrival of Apple's macOS 10.15, which no longer supports old 32-bit applications like the discontinued PhaseOne MediaPro, many people have been looking for a modern, 64-bit alternative, and NeoFinder is here to help them.

NeoFinder 7.5 is currently scheduled for release in December 2019.

More details about these new features:
https://www.cdfinder.de/guide/13/13.5/neofinder_custom_fields.html

More details about migrating data from iView to NeoFinder:
https://www.cdfinder.de/guide/31/iview_neofinder.html
 


Perhaps you can use Handbrake to convert the clips to m4v (mp4) and reintegrate into Keynote. Remember that a Keynote file is just a zip file with a different extension, so you can always extract the underlying movie files for this purpose.
Thanks! Already working on this. Even Handbrake can't seem to handle some of the older clips. But I'm digging back into ancient backups - and also testing "old" versions of Keynote - to see if I can convert them usefully.
 


Thanks! Already working on this. Even Handbrake can't seem to handle some of the older clips. But I'm digging back into ancient backups - and also testing "old" versions of Keynote - to see if I can convert them usefully.
If you run into videos you cannot convert, but you can play them now, then a quality screen-capture-to-video program will help. Tedious, but it works, and while not perfect, is certainly better than nothing. Hope this helps.
 


Apple probably should have a proactive "migration" app that builds an easy report before the "automatically upgrade" default settings grab the new upgrade as fast as possible and install it. However, Mojave complains about 32-bit apps every time you launch them. There has has been over a year of nagging. Some folks may only be looking at the tip of the iceberg of apps they almost never run, but Apple's latest macOS isn't being quiet about this. Similar warnings were splashed about legacy media in QuickTime...
... there have been "the train is coming" notices for those standing in the railroad crossing.
Thanks! I have been watching those notices.
"About incompatible media in iMovie for macOS," for instance, says "In OS X Mavericks and later, QuickTime Player (version 10.0 and later) converts legacy media files..."

To me, that clearly states that QT Player will continue making those conversions ("in Mavericks and later...")

I'm not playing word games here. I realize the jig is up, and I just have to deal with it. I'm just saying that despite these "notices" - which most users don't read, I'll bet - a lot of people will find themselves suddenly stranded on the new Catalina Island (pun intended), with a very hard road to recovery.
 



On the flip side, there's a common problem running VMware Fusion under Catalina Beta: a VM will start with a black screen. It is necessary to enable VMware in Screen Recording under Security & Privacy, but it's not listed. One solution is to uninstall Fusion v11.1.1, install v11.1.0, grant permission for Screen Recording when asked, then reinstall v11.1.1. In my case, an attempt to update from within v11.1.0 failed. Installing v11.1.1 from the downloaded dmg succeeded. No VMs were harmed in the process.
I spent a while wrestling with VMware Fusion under the Catalina beta. I am having the black screen problem, as well, and I cannot get the dialog to come up that asks me to grant permission for Screen Recording for VMware Fusion. I even tried installing v11.1.0, as had been suggested. Many of the Security Privacy lists have a + button to manually add an application, but for some reason Screen Recording does not. As far as I know, the only way to get an app in that list is for the dialog to magically appear.
 


Even Handbrake can't seem to handle some of the older clips.
I'm curious what kind of videos you have that Handbrake cannot convert. Do you have information about them, or could you maybe post one as an example for inspection?
"About incompatible media in iMovie for macOS," for instance, says "In OS X Mavericks and later, QuickTime Player (version 10.0 and later) converts legacy media files..."
To me, that clearly states that QT Player will continue making those conversions ("in Mavericks and later...")
I don't see those words in the page you linked. Maybe they changed the page recently? In fact, what it does say on that page indicates that legacy media files will no longer be converted once you upgrade to Catalina (because the old QuickTime 7 framework no longer exists at that point):
Apple Support said:
Before you upgrade to the next major version of macOS after macOS Mojave, make sure to convert all incompatible media files. After you upgrade, the option to convert the incompatible files will no longer be available.
 


Additional resources over on my MacStrategy web site:
I will specially be working on updates to these two articles today and tomorrow and of course will keep them updated in the future as new information becomes available.
 


I spent a while wrestling with VMware Fusion under the Catalina beta. I am having the black screen problem, as well, and I cannot get the dialog to come up that asks me to grant permission for Screen Recording for VMware Fusion. I even tried installing v11.1.0, as had been suggested. Many of the Security Privacy lists have a + button to manually add an application, but for some reason Screen Recording does not. As far as I know, the only way to get an app in that list is for the dialog to magically appear.
I uninstalled v11.1.1 using CleanMyMac X, which appears to do a thorough job. After restarting the system, I ran the v11.1.0 installer and at some point, the request for Screen Recording permission appeared. It was necessary to enter the serial number again to get out of trial mode.
 


Thanks! I have been watching those notices.
"About incompatible media in iMovie for macOS," for instance, says "In OS X Mavericks and later, QuickTime Player (version 10.0 and later) converts legacy media files..."

To me, that clearly states that QT Player will continue making those conversions ("in Mavericks and later...")
... I think you linked in the wrong article. The quote comes from the Quicktime Player one:

You are drawing a huge leap with the "Quicktime 10.0 or later" in part because you have skipped over the date of the KB article. Its last modified date at the moment is "September 24, 2018". That "or later" is basically in the context of macOS 10.14, and it is not a "forever" promise at all. It is more a notational thing to say they aren't going to come back and update the article for QuickTime 10.1, 10.1.2, 10.2.2.3, etc. These aren't contracts, they are just knowledge base articles that get updated over time....

When macOS 10.15 releases, someone should come back and edit that document. Technically, it could have been updated with the others that came later to give a bigger warning of the end of the road (but the warning is there). One likely problem is that with a new OS coming, there are lots of KB articles that need updates and/or need first-generation creation.

The article you wanted to link has this about the context in which future QT Players would run:
Media files that use many of these older formats will not be compatible with future macOS releases, so you should save the converted file before closing it.
So the "or later" is being pulled out of the context of the article. The document you did link clearly states that the whole OS library is going to stop being able to read certain files after macOS 10.14.
Media files that use many of these older formats will not be compatible with future macOS releases, so you should save the converted file before closing it.
That article is dated "June 18, 2019" (after WWDC and announcement of 10.15 Catalina). Since it is newer, it is probably closer to what is going to happen in the future. There are two parts. One identifies the legacy stuff (which will work "or later"). The second is the conversion. macOS 10.15 and later, these files will just get tagged. The 'conversion later' option will be too late. If you can't read a file, then you won't be able to convert it. A conversion program needs to understand what is there before it can covert it to something else. The problem for many of these files is that they are trapped in proprietary encodings that have defacto been abandoned. They just "happen to work", because Apple has a long-term contract for the frozen-in-time 32-bit versions of the codecs. Because this is "dead in the water' code, the "or later" is just a matter of how long until phased out.
 


I was following up your links (thank you) and checking on the status of video files I have. I found some video files that display a generic DV icon in the Finder's preview pane but would not play or get converted in QuickTime. These files had no extension. Adding .dv to the end of the file name resulted in them playing in QuickTime, and the Finder preview pane changed to the first frame of the video. I found other video files also without extensions and a generic DV icon in the Finder preview pane that QuickTime converted to .mov files and that now play in QuickTime.

Bottom line: Not all DV files are the same, and although I seemed to have resolved future compatibility issues, I have no idea what the difference was between the files.
 




Exactly. I presume those things will be sorted by an update at some point, but right now, Parallels is a somewhat easier ride than VMware with Catalina. That's not to say Parallels is perfect; especially during installation there were some confusing prompts, and installing the Parallels Tools drivers in the VM was more of a manual process than before. In any case, I think these issues with Parallels and VMware point to the sorts of installation issues that will arise with many apps under Catalina that go beyond the simplest functionality.
I have just tested VMware Fusion 11.5 on my 2010 Mac Pro running the Catalina beta - it works well. Previously, when I'd used VMware Fusion 11.0.x, virtual machines would run but with an entirely black screen. I was not able to get the "Screen Recording" security dialog to come up - if I could have done that, it would have solved the problem. With VMware Fusion 11.5 it looks like the this security dialog is no longer necessary. I did not remove the existing VMware Fusion 11.0.x but, instead, just ran the Fusion 11.5 installer. It replaced 11.0.x with 11.5.
 



I usually take the plunge and upgrade early, although I did stop beta-testing macOSes a long time ago.

Between my now-orphaned Mac Pro towers and the bugginess in iOS 13, though, I'm going to plan to hold off for a good while and see how other people do. Too many projects in the works to mess around.
 


I usually take the plunge and upgrade early, although I did stop beta-testing macOSes a long time ago. Between my now-orphaned Mac Pro towers and the bugginess in iOS 13, though, I'm going to plan to hold off for a good while and see how other people do. Too many projects in the works to mess around.
Of late, I have been using betas of both Mojave and IOS software. It seems that the risk of the beta with bug fixes is less than continuing to use the released software with bugs. For Mojave, I always clone the existing hard disk with Carbon Copy Cloner just before updating to a new beta, and thus it is easy to go backwards. (I have not been as diligent with IOS betas.)
 


Ric Ford

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Of late, I have been using betas of both Mojave and IOS software. It seems that the risk of the beta with bug fixes is less than continuing to use the released software with bugs. For Mojave, I always clone the existing hard disk with Carbon Copy Cloner just before updating to a new beta, and thus it is easy to go backwards....
The problem I see is when you use the beta for a while before discovering a problem and needing to revert. You may have documents, preferences and apps all updated in scattered places around your boot drive in the interim, so that restoring all of those correctly may be a very non-trivial exercise.
 




I'm almost always an early adopter of macOS, but I've already decided to continue running Mojave for quite a while after Catalina is released. I'm hoping to learn the impact of the 32-bit extinction from others (!) before I take the plunge. I also have some projects underway with which I'm facile working in some 32-bit software. I'm not a big fan of virtualization; to me, it seems pretty complicated for "everyday", "mere-mortal" use.
 


But if you install macOS Catalina on any drive, it may update the firmware inside your Mac, and there may be no way to recover/revert to previous firmware - just something to keep in mind....
Well, then it is way too late for that. I've had the public beta on an external drive since it was released. FWIW, my internal Mojave drive still boots.
 


I'm not a big fan of virtualization; to me, it seems pretty complicated for "everyday", "mere-mortal" use.
Hi, Ralph. I, too, used to think that making a Virtual Machine was going to be more complicated than I was prepared to handle, (having set up a VirtualBox system in the past). I thought this until I made a VM running macOS 10.14.6 using Parallels 15 this past weekend. After updating to Parallels 15 from an earlier version, I selected "New" from the File menu, scrolled through the choices available to select "Mac OS", and about 20-30 minutes after the OS was downloaded, I had a fully functioning VM. I’ve been adding the 32-bit apps that I use (QuickTime 7, MathMagic equation editor and others), and they all work as expected.

There is a recent TidBits article describing the process in more detail. Making the virtualization setup was much, much easier than I expected, and I’m very pleased with the result.
 



There is a recent TidBits article describing the process in more detail. Making the virtualization setup was much, much easier than I expected, and I’m very pleased with the result.
We also have free, step-by-step guides over on MacStrategy:
Plus notes on Virtualising Adobe Creative Suite with Mac OS X / OS X / macOS.
 


Regrettably, EasyFind 4.9.3 is 32-bit, so it will die with Catalina. Pity. Great utility!
Whatever the explanation or state of the app, EasyFind 4.9.3 runs in my 2018 Mac Mini in macOS Catalina 10.15 Beta (19A578c), and was also fine in the previous versions of Catalina. The method for listing 32- and 64-bit apps in System Report no longer works in Catalina.
 


But if you install macOS Catalina on any drive, it may update the firmware inside your Mac, and there may be no way to recover/revert to previous firmware - just something to keep in mind....
I'm running Catalina Beta 10 on my iMac 18,3 via an external SSD and I'm able to boot into Mojave (internal boot drive) and High Sierra (external SSD) without issue.

My Boot ROM version is 178.0.0.0.0
 


The problem I see is when you use the beta for a while before discovering a problem and needing to revert. You may have documents, preferences and apps all updated in scattered places around your boot drive in the interim, so that restoring all of those correctly may be a very non-trivial exercise.
That is, of course, a risk. On the other hand, having to put up with problems of the non-beta version for many months also has risks. I just wish Apple would stop the annual OS updates and just decide on an OS and keep squashing bugs and making increment improvements for several years. In many ways that is what I think Microsoft 10 is doing.

#applequality
 



Whatever the explanation or state of the app, EasyFind 4.9.3 runs in my 2018 Mac Mini in macOS Catalina 10.15 Beta (19A578c), and was also fine in the previous versions of Catalina. The method for listing 32- and 64-bit apps in System Report no longer works in Catalina.
Mojave "System Report" says it's 64-bit, and I can confirm it does work in Catalina.
 


But if you install macOS Catalina on any drive, it may update the firmware inside your Mac, and there may be no way to recover/revert to previous firmware - just something to keep in mind....
Which is why Apple and everybody else always says to not install a beta OS on a production system.

If you don't have a spare computer to use for beta testing, then you shouldn't be participating in the beta program in the first place.

The fact that you may sometimes be able to get away with installing to a different disk partition on your production computer doesn't really change the fact that doing so is playing with fire.
 


My copy of Go64 says EasyFind 4.9.3 is 64-bit.
One interesting tidbit I noticed when checking for Legacy Software (32-bit) in System Report is that it continues to list software weeks or months after I have uninstalled it. I use App Cleaner and Uninstaller which deletes all remnants of deleted applications such as preference and service files. I think this is a System Report bug.
 


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